Seasteading Important Sections

Started by: patrissimo     Jun 09, 2009     Total Views: 3,120     Total Votes: 872

What are the aspects of seasteading which must be described in a section. In other words: If you don't cover ___", I won't be convinced / the book won't be complete. Don't include things covered in the book, unless they need substantial expansion. PLEASE ADD IDEAS AT THE BOTTOM as well as voting!
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1.

Challenges: Seastead economics (ocean expensive)

By: patrissimo 11,826 points  report  32 votes

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2.

Challenges: Dealing with current states

By: patrissimo 11,826 points  report  28 votes

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3.

Seasteads And Self-Sufficiency

By: patrissimo 11,826 points  report  28 votes

Why I don't think they should be self-sufficient, and how they can be (for those who disagree with me).

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+22 pts

4.

Locations: Protected Seas (Baltic, Med, etc.)

By: patrissimo 11,826 points  report  27 votes

Discuss possible locations in protected seas for lower waves but more chance of interference from close states

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5.

Catalogue specific mistakes of similar projects

By: patrissimo 11,826 points  report  28 votes

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6.

Strategy: ShipSteading

By: patrissimo 11,826 points  report  25 votes

Discuss using ships to advance seasteading

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+15 pts

7.

Strategy: Single-Family Seasteads

By: patrissimo 11,826 points  report  25 votes

Discuss the strategy of seasteading by starting with small structures sized for one family, as suggested here: http://wiki.seasteading.org/index.php/User:Vincecate/SeasteadingViews

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8.

Defense: Key defense technologies

By: patrissimo 11,826 points  report  25 votes

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9.

Business Model: Hotel/Resort/Club

By: patrissimo 11,826 points  report  21 votes

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10.

Designs: Breakwaters

By: patrissimo 11,826 points  report  20 votes

Possible designs for large floating breakwaters to create an artificial atoll of calm water, even in the middle of the ocean.

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11.

Business Model: Medical Tourism details

By: patrissimo 11,826 points  report  22 votes

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12.

Piracy - In-depth discussion of stats, locations, methods

By: patrissimo 11,826 points  report  22 votes

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13.

Strategy: Avoiding Disastrous Failures

By: patrissimo 11,826 points  report  18 votes

How can our societies be experimental, while minimizing the costs of failure (like bloodshed)?

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+12 pts

14.

Locations: Doldrums

By: patrissimo 11,826 points  report  20 votes

Discuss the use of the waters close to the equator as a possible location, where the waves are less.

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15.

Business Model: Aquaculture details

By: patrissimo 11,826 points  report  22 votes

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16.

Challenges: Lack of interest / few seasteaders

By: patrissimo 11,826 points  report  23 votes

Discuss how to deal with the potential challenge of very few people wanting to go seastead.

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+9 pts

17.

Designs: Single-Family Seasteads

By: patrissimo 11,826 points  report  24 votes

Discuss possible designs for structures sized for one family which are "better than a boat" for our purposes.

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18.

Will Seasteads Hurt The Environment

By: patrissimo 11,826 points  report  20 votes

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19.

Designs: ClubStead

By: patrissimo 11,826 points  report  15 votes

Discuss the details of the clubstead design, featured here: seasteading.org/strategic-areas/engineering/clubstead

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YayBoo

+7 pts

20.

Designs: Used oil rig conversion.

By: patrissimo 11,826 points  report  20 votes

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21.

Locations: Pacific Garbage Patch

By: patrissimo 11,826 points  report  18 votes

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22.

Business Model: Algae for biodiesel

By: patrissimo 11,826 points  report  14 votes

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23.

Strategy: BaseSteading

By: patrissimo 11,826 points  report  16 votes

Discuss the strategy of BaseSteading, as described at http://wiki.seasteading.org/index.php/User:DanB/BaseStead_Strategy

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24.

Master Lease for SeaSteading Communities

By: JLMadrigal 1,984 points  report  10 votes

Once they are operational, how will TSI continue funding and managing the operation and development of SeaSteads

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25.

Seasteading and Ocean Stewardship

By: patrissimo 11,826 points  report  10 votes

Discuss how seasteads could help improve the oceans in return for using part of them, for example by promoting fish stock replenishment, CO2 mitigation via plankton, etc.

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26.

Logistics - Transporting residents to remote ocean seasteads

By: akjdg 109 points  report  8 votes

Remote seastead locations (doldrums, pacific garbage patch, etc) will be several days' sail from major ports. This may dissuade many prospective residents. More rapid transport necessitates air travel. Can commercial helicopters reach these destinations? Will these remote seasteads have infrastructure to receive fixed wing aircraft?

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+4 pts

27.

Business Model: Fuel depot

By: atymes 102 points  report  4 votes

As already noted in the book, cruise ships have range limited by supplies, but they otherwise approximate temporary seasteading. So, how about a mid-ocean depot for cruise ships, where they can pick up fuel (delivered by tankers who may be en route to main ports) and food (ditto, and perhaps on-site aquaculture can help)? This might be small enough for an early stage Coaststead, or perhaps Seastead Lite, to be financially feasable. Aquaculture can grow as the concept proves itself, and if it turns out that people from the passing cruise ships would like to make call in this exotic port, accommodations can be built after that has been proven enough to attract financing. (From there it might grow into the already-mentioned Cargo Transshipment Port; this is a way to get to that point.) Somewhere in the Carribean might be good for this: far enough away from shores that deep-water ships can sail right up to the port, and in the middle of an established cruise ship and trade zone.

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+4 pts

28.

History and status of cruise ship industry

By: patrissimo 11,826 points  report  19 votes

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29.

Designs: VersaBuoy

By: patrissimo 11,826 points  report  11 votes

Explore this articulated spar platform design: http://www.vbuoy.com/

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30.

Challenges: Perception / PR

By: patrissimo 11,826 points  report  19 votes

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31.

Designs: Wave Blankets

By: patrissimo 11,826 points  report  7 votes

Mitigate waves through flexibly connected surface modules, such as in the Discovery Channel New Orleans: City At Sea episode.

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32.

Sovereignty - the Prime Directive

By: JLMadrigal 1,984 points  report  7 votes

How to keep both individual and stead sovereignty in the forefront of seasteading goals, so that they don't fade away as the movement progresses. While flags of convenience and other partnerships with states may be useful in the short run, they must not be permitted to overtake the movement in the long run. Nor should any one organization - including TSI - be allowed to become tyrannical as it expands.

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+3 pts

33.

Seasteading as a step to space colonization

By: patrissimo 11,826 points  report  18 votes

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34.

Issues With Democracy

By: patrissimo 11,826 points  report  22 votes

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35.

Current secessionist movements

By: patrissimo 11,826 points  report  20 votes

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36.

Location: Reef or other natural breakwater

By: patrissimo 11,826 points  report  12 votes

Do some research and data-crunching to determine if there are places where underwater reefs provide a wave break, while not reaching the surface and qualifying as national territory for existing nations.

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+2 pts

37.

Overall Governance Plan

By: poliscistudent 100 points  report  2 votes

Who wants to join a movement without clear rules guaranteeing security? Without an idea for how one's input will be taken into consideration? Without knowing what public services will be provided?

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+2 pts

38.

Designs: Underwater structure design ideas

By: patrissimo 11,826 points  report  15 votes

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+1 pts

39.

Government: Specific Ideas For Better Governments

By: patrissimo 11,826 points  report  18 votes

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0 pts

40.

Challenges: Splicers

By: patrissimo 11,826 points  report  12 votes

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0 pts

41.

Seasteading and Global Warming

By: patrissimo 11,826 points  report  19 votes

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-1 pts

42.

How seasteading relates to the current financial crisis

By: patrissimo 11,826 points  report  16 votes

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-2 pts

43.

When Does It All End: A Love Story

By: correctthinking 77,871 points  report  6 votes

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44.

Seasteading And Happiness Research

By: patrissimo 11,826 points  report  15 votes

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-3 pts

45.

Mongo Dogface In The Banana Patch

By: correctthinking 77,871 points  report  7 votes

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46.

Seasteading & Rockin' The Paradise

By: correctthinking 77,871 points  report  5 votes

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47.

Lunch: And The Barfing Thereof

By: correctthinking 77,871 points  report  6 votes

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48.

Seasteading And The Holy Grail

By: correctthinking 77,871 points  report  6 votes

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-4 pts

49.

How seasteading relates to the decline of American Empire

By: patrissimo 11,826 points  report  17 votes

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YayBoo

-5 pts

50.

The Global Economy & The Unkel Boob Effect

By: correctthinking 77,871 points  report  5 votes

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51.

Seasteading & How To Frame A Figg

By: correctthinking 77,871 points  report  5 votes

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52.

Seasteading & The Flushing Of Your Toilet

By: correctthinking 77,871 points  report  5 votes

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-5 pts

53.

OTEC: Detailed history, prospects, etc.

By: patrissimo 11,826 points  report  16 votes

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-6 pts

54.

Materials: Pykrete

By: patrissimo 11,826 points  report  17 votes

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General Comments

Anonymous User Feb. 13, 2010  report  Yay Boo  0 pts

Please do away with the tags. I don't know what browser you use, but in IE and FF, those lines don't break, they run off the right edge of the page as one loooong line. Find them down with the line that reads "This a 1-2 m2 platform that floata in a pool." , whatever "floata" is.

Anonymous User Feb. 13, 2010  report  Yay Boo  0 pts

Trying again since the html tags got lost in the first post... Please do away with the [pre][code] tags. I don't know what browser you use, but in IE and FF, those [pre..../pre] lines don't break, they run off the right edge of the page as one loooong line. Find them down with the line that reads "This a 1-2 m2 platform that floata in a pool." , whatever "floata" is.

Anonymous User Apr. 21, 2010  report  Yay Boo  0 pts

I read your section on Wolf Hilbertz and 'Seacrete' or electrodeposition of marine minerals, and you have several of the assumptions wrong, including the energy requirement over time, which is actually quite small. I have produced structures a foot thick in a year off of a single layer of chicken wire with very little effort and a small solar panel, standard 125 Watts. It only takes milliamps, really. Did you ever try it?
Bill Wilson

billwilsonwater @gmail.com

Anonymous User Jul. 28, 2010  report  Yay Boo  0 pts

have any of you guys ever worked in luxury sales? you need people to spend a lot of money on this, so you cant model this like regular life on earth. you need to make the experience absolutely exquisite to impress people who have the amount of money you need to make this possible - on a "per capita" basis.

what you are doing is relying on the novelty of life at sea to sell the idea - but that will never work. people who have that kind of money are smart enough to consider what life will be like 5-10-20 years down the road. will they regret their investment? was it really better than living a "normal" life. You have to do something to make the experience of life onboard completely amazing, irresistable... i.e. - the people who live there are healthier, stronger, smarter, and happier in ever possible way.

imagine you have this kind of money but you live in a condo overlooking central park. are you really gonna give up all the splendor of midtown manhattan for a little tiny speck that floats?

Rich Al

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Anonymous User Aug. 31, 2010  report  Yay Boo  0 pts

WRT: Energy storage: Instead of pumping water up, why not string a cable between a rock-and-float
pair, and level out your energy by winching them together and letting the "float" apart? Also, large amounts of hydrogen could be stored in gas-bags tethered downwind. You don't have to store everything on-board.

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